Back in the early 90s, I dated a girl who went to Mt Holyoke College, an all women's college in Massachusetts. I was completely immersed in the culture of that campus for 2 years. At the time I complained that they were not looking for equal rights, but dominance over men. The way they explained it to me was that things had to go way far past equal so that when it snapped back it would be equal. It took me a long time to get over the abuse/brainwashing/gaslighting that I suffered in that relationship, and eventually left the country to look for my wife in Guatemala. Personally, I don't associate with anyone that asks/demands anything of me that I don't agree with anymore, male or female. I just choose not to play with them.
"Located in South Hadley, Massachusetts, Mount Holyoke College is a highly selective, nondenominational, residential, research liberal arts college for women that is gender diverse and welcomes applications from female, transgender and non-binary students."
LOL yeah, that's who is running Afghanistan, that's who burned women for being witches, that's who made wife-beating legal for centuries. Da FemINiSmS.
Men project so much it's amazing you even exist. At least we know what a woman is, I mean the real ones. I'm not talking about the dumb libfems who think a mentally ill man in a skirt is a woman. And who is doing the dressing up and forcing themselves in girls' locker rooms?
Engage in self-criticism, you stupid moid. Men like you are the problem. You hate.
Yes, that was my first experience with PC, but back then there was definitely only two genders. Men had to be escorted around campus or they would call security on you for being a "random man". This was before cell phones so they had blue phones all over campus to report anything and everything. One time my girlfriend was practicing piano so I went outside to have a cigarette. There was a nice stone bridge that spanned a charming creek about 20 meters from the music building. One girl walked by me and before I could finish my cigarette security came and let me know that they got a call about a random man. I had to go back in with my escort. IDK how they are dealing with all this self identification today.
And both see the world as a zero-sum game, when it doesn’t have to be. And seeing things in that light, they drive hell for leather to balance (or over-balance) the scales.
The conceit is that you can bring down men without bringing down women. Who was it who said no one can win the war of the sexes? Way too much fraternizing with the enemy? I think some of these women are just starting to find out as they hit middle age single because they can’t find any men they aren’t contemptuous of.
Nice compilation. Interesting (for a non American) to look at "breeder penalty" by country. The German figure feels intuitively right, somehow.
That said, a few nitpicky points:
1) part of the single person home ownership difference will be due to widows being more numerous than widowers. You can argue that this just confirms the female privilege in living longer, but I'll still be interested in seeing the same data for people under 60 or whenever males start dying out
2) the IPV and rape statistics are slightly at least disingenuous in one particular way. They lump together violent and non violent instances of both and while I'm furthest from implying that being belittled and humiliated isn't a form of violence in a broad sense (really, I acknowledge it can be), there's a difference between being called a useless piece of shit and having your ribs broken. A comparison of the number of males and females killed by their partners or exes would dispell this. Same with rape: violence/physical force or its threat vs "rape as unwanted sex while intoxicated" might (I'm not as sure here) show a different picture.
And I'm pretty sure you'll still end up with similar conclusions, just acknowledging some ways in which women ARE obviously disadvantaged in direct conflict with men.
I agree there could be some double counting of effects in (1), and I hadn't considered that, but that could be adjusted at the end of the analysis by adjusting the weights.
A lot of (2) gets encapsulated in the "intimate partner violence" numbers which got their own line.
A question that occurred to me while reading the portion on home ownership was what percentage of the single-woman home owners got the house in the divorce? I wonder if that would be worthy of separate discussion.
For incarceration, it would be more fair to use the « same-crime length of prison » ratio Between men and women than total incarcerations ratio between men and women. If men commit more crime, it is not women’s fault.
A similar thing for workplace deaths: some feminists argued that a lot of those workplace deaths are due to men being stupid and not taking all the necessary precautionary measures when working. When women work those jobs, they die way less than. It is clearly gaslighting and we know men just take the more dangerous tasks when doing those jobs with women but it might be better to try to adjust for that.
Finally for College education: some feminists would argue that this is a sign of men privilege, in the sense that men can find work through trades/apprenticeship while for women this option is kind of blocked because sexism and things like that. But women don’t seem to chose the most competitive fields for job marketplace in university so idk about that. It looks to me like they chose more « fun » and high-status fields with low-pay.
White women are in fact the most privileged entities on the planet, and the ratio isn't even close.
Given the divorce rate, divorced women are overwhelmingly getting the kids and the house, with the man turfed out to fend for himself. Is that alone enough to account for the home ownership gap? I'm going to say "Probably."
We're already seeing societal fraying, with successful, professional women having expectations that are not only unrealistic, but unachievable for finding a male partner (tall, gorgeous, athletic, makes more money than she does). This is already showing in a crashing birth rate, but also men who rate a 7 or less out of 10 are simply opting not to play this stupid game anymore. This has several knock-on effects.
"I cannot explain why there are more homeless men than women. Mental illness causes homelessness, but mental illness in women is triple that of men, so that’s not it. "
The divorce metric above is certainly part of it. Also a woman who is mentally ill and unable to support herself can just enlist a man to do it for her, or fall back on family or the rest of her support network, with no social stigma attached. Nobody's going to take care of a man who can't work. (I shouldn't use absolutes but this is a definite rarity)
Society will not deal well with the day when men as a whole decide they're just going to check out.
With regard to homelessness, I would point out that far more men suffer from military service-related PTSD than do women. The effects of PTSD do not always rise to the level we call mental illness, but they can cause mental dislocation that leads to leaving physical homes somewhere along the wayside.
I have not done a deep dive on why vets are disproportionately homeless, but I have seen that that specific problem has gotten better in the past few years.
As a prior navy guy, the military looked into the vets being homeless thing, found out a good bit were lying, but still didn’t like the numbers they saw. So(I have no idea when it started) they started training people on finance, savings, money spending, and when you get out they make you submit your plans(short, medium, long), ask where you’ll stay, how much you have saved, jobs, school(formal or trade), yadda yadda. Since they started, homeless vets is pretty small, and if you see a guy with a sign claiming he’s a vet, chances are he’s lying.
Now, I could be misremembering numbers or projections, but the military DOES train people, and if you’re homeless after serving, it’s really your own fault.
I was thinking exactly the same thing. Some numbers might be different, but especially the having a baby drop in income would be huge, probably looking like Germany’s numbers now, as women drop out of the workforce entirely when they have kids. It’s be interesting to see, although data gathering rules might be different
Women will never let up, that’s because we are hardwired to look for what’s wrong and not what’s right. People in general do that, but in my experience women do it more. Trade offs is a hard concept to understand for both men and women (economics in general seems impossible to understand for the general populace), but once again it seems like we women have an especially hard time with that concept. The grass is always greener for other people.
For example: We complain about the burden and oppressiveness of being the preferred parent of our children. How, even in a room full of adults, your child will crawl all over you and never let you have a break. But then again, we never stop to think how we’d feel if our child stopped preferring us or never preferred us at all. The few women this happened to (very rare, as it takes a LOT for a baby not to prefer their mother) are seething with jealousy and anger at their child’s preferred caretaker.
Another example: being SAHM is hard. Doing laundry all day and scrubbing floors are no fun. Even childcare is only sometimes fun. But we don’t stop to think how we’d feel if we were forced by circumstances to leave our babies for 8-10 hours a day in the care of others. One woman I have heard of blew up her relationship with her SAHD husband because her baby prefers him, and he hasn’t automatically read her mind and been a less fun caregiver when she’s home.
These are just domestic chore split examples. Looking at social issues, you generalize this tendency to other statistics (eg “Even one rape is a rape too many!”), you can easily see that this is a war so-called feminists can never win. They don’t pay attention to the male statistics of course, because there still too much rape. There will always be too much rape. Life is full of suffering, so there will always be rape. So the war is never over.
I think this is all part and parcel of the Victims' Revolution of the 60s and that nothing will change as long as our reigning morality (which has now been adopted by almost everyone educated and/or professional) is based on the perceived Victim class and how being a Good Person now means tending to their wounds and redistributing everything from assets to esteem to citiations from the Oppressor to the Oppressed (up to and including rewriting history, if nec). And these categories (like the founding dogma they're based on) are etched in stone and will not change and even if we're ruled by a new Thirty Tyrants composed only of black women they will proclaim that we are still centuries away from achieving "Justice".
I think people make the mistake of thinking of the 60s as just a groovy bacchanal of cool music and crazy clothes but it really was a second Reformation (we even had another Martin Luther! this one also being a King) and the Social Justice faith that arose on the ashes of Christianity and Americanism has now become the worldview/morality/sacred belief system of almost all Westerners under, say, age 40. And in this new faith women are an original and eternal victim class—the Patriarchy smothered them for centuries!—and once someone is coded as Victim they can never be contradicted, never told NO, as this replicates the sins of our evil ancestors.
There is a New God in town and He/She demands the total submission of men (white ones, most especially) and New Gods usually get what they want.
HWFO was in the vanguard of explaining that dynamic back in 2018. Here's a reprint from the original Medium piece on the topic, so the terminology has evolved since then.
Interesting writeup. I would have never expected this if not put in this way. Thanks HWFO. An interesting plot I would like to see in relation to this would be female vs. male narcissism. Further, would be a study on the drivers of this from a biological perspective. Maybe they are nothing, just thinking out loud. Anyway, thanks again.
I’ve had to learn more about this than I ever wanted to know. Of the Cluster B personality disorders, men predominate in sociopathy and narcissistic personality disorder diagnoses. Women predominate in borderline and histrionic personality disorder diagnoses. This was as of a few years ago.
Ya know, I had another question…. How exactly does a woman rape a man? Not sure how that works. Once long before I was married with kids a woman I sorta knew took me home one night when I had too much to drink. I wasn’t at all attracted to her or interested in intimacy. Well she tried but things just wouldn’t work out for her so to speak. I know,I know. Your going to blame it on the alcohol. I’m pretty sure that if it would have been someone I was into everything woulda worked out just fine. I just can’t believe a woman could rape a man. Maybe I’m naïve though.🤣🤣
"Absurdly drunk" is part of the equation. I know one man to whom this has happened, but he's very apprehensive to share the story. If you're interested in plumbing the depths of the research, search for the term "pregnancy entrapment."
Have been there, tried to tell the story, got gaslit so hard by my "friends" that I actually apologized to her for harming her reputation, then had various negative reactions to that psychological hit. Comments like some of the ones in this thread are the reason the people making them have never heard of the idea.
In a work/business setting, a woman with more power demanding sex from a male in a less powerful position (no pun intended), and threatening retaliation if it was not forthcoming (also no pun intended).
yeah same here, i've been groped by some pretty beastly women and have even awoken to find one touching or sucking on my knob, but the moment i saw who it was and how much i was repelled by them, not even concrete could have got my savior to rise.
i am also very perplexed as to how a woman can rape a man.
Happily married and raising two sons. Happily feminist but eager to hear from men and seeing these kinds of thoughts/data. Hard to distinguish myself as a true feminist with the caveat that men are good, true and beautiful part of our world. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. This helps point towards a more nuanced stance of equality and equity. 💜
As you dive into feminist thought, you'll start to realize that feminism is not at all a universal block, there are dozens of different kinds, and the teachings and indoctrinations of many of the different kinds deeply conflict with other kinds of feminists. I would characterize my late wife as a feminist, but not like *those* feminists or *those other* feminists.
If you get into the TERF Wars, go slowly, dip one toe in the ocean, and watch out for sharks.
This is a superior article. Thorough, lucid, and polished. I haven’t seen anything of such quality in this topic area since Dalrock took down his shingle a few years ago. I haven’t read anything else you’ve written yet, but I subscribed as soon as I finished this.
I don't hit gender stuff very often - this is mostly a firearms statistics publication with a side helping of wokeness analysis and a sprinkle of environmentalism and general culture war / media war analysis. YMMV. Have a look around.
Women will never quit. They only read things that reinforce their beliefs, and regularly dismiss anything that goes against their agenda. More and more women are on the male-bashing agenda, and it is starting in younger and younger women. As men, we just need to shut up and deal with it. Expressing dismay or verbalizing that women are winning gains men no favors. Also, men need to be very, very careful about whom they date, and even more careful about whom they marry. Even then, there is a strong chance a woman will grow tired of you and resort to divorce-rape of their future ex husband.
I try to read both sides, but when one side spits on my opinions and the other doesn't, it's hard to be unbiased. And there are a LOT of strong opinions out there. It's traditional not to discuss religion or politics in polite company, but while the weather used to be a safe topic it no longer is.
There are many, many damn fools running around out there. Damn fools NEVER quit. So I try to avoid them. I have a few friends I treasure: we can argue without getting carried away. We even listen to one another. Sometimes we even change our minds.
As a father of a daughter, I don't mind the "girl power" and "you can do it" narratives. But I feel obligated to remind my daughter that certain realities are in place, such as "don't pick a fist fight with a boy."
I don't love it because it comes with an implied "the world is holding you down relative to boys, but you still got this !" message, which is clearly the opposite of this piece you wrote. The very absence of "boy power" messages alone delivers this message too.
Back in the early 90s, I dated a girl who went to Mt Holyoke College, an all women's college in Massachusetts. I was completely immersed in the culture of that campus for 2 years. At the time I complained that they were not looking for equal rights, but dominance over men. The way they explained it to me was that things had to go way far past equal so that when it snapped back it would be equal. It took me a long time to get over the abuse/brainwashing/gaslighting that I suffered in that relationship, and eventually left the country to look for my wife in Guatemala. Personally, I don't associate with anyone that asks/demands anything of me that I don't agree with anymore, male or female. I just choose not to play with them.
Ho boy!
"Located in South Hadley, Massachusetts, Mount Holyoke College is a highly selective, nondenominational, residential, research liberal arts college for women that is gender diverse and welcomes applications from female, transgender and non-binary students."
That quote makes my brain hurt. Feminists hate women.
LOL yeah, that's who is running Afghanistan, that's who burned women for being witches, that's who made wife-beating legal for centuries. Da FemINiSmS.
Men project so much it's amazing you even exist. At least we know what a woman is, I mean the real ones. I'm not talking about the dumb libfems who think a mentally ill man in a skirt is a woman. And who is doing the dressing up and forcing themselves in girls' locker rooms?
Engage in self-criticism, you stupid moid. Men like you are the problem. You hate.
Now get a job.
Yes, that was my first experience with PC, but back then there was definitely only two genders. Men had to be escorted around campus or they would call security on you for being a "random man". This was before cell phones so they had blue phones all over campus to report anything and everything. One time my girlfriend was practicing piano so I went outside to have a cigarette. There was a nice stone bridge that spanned a charming creek about 20 meters from the music building. One girl walked by me and before I could finish my cigarette security came and let me know that they got a call about a random man. I had to go back in with my escort. IDK how they are dealing with all this self identification today.
The way they explained it to me was that things had to go way far past equal so that when it snapped back it would be equal.
They also need revenge for being oppressed for so long. It's only fair.
Yes, there was definitely an element of reparations/revenge to it.
And both see the world as a zero-sum game, when it doesn’t have to be. And seeing things in that light, they drive hell for leather to balance (or over-balance) the scales.
That logic also explains reparations for slavery.
Yes, there was definitely an element of reparations/revenge to it.
The conceit is that you can bring down men without bringing down women. Who was it who said no one can win the war of the sexes? Way too much fraternizing with the enemy? I think some of these women are just starting to find out as they hit middle age single because they can’t find any men they aren’t contemptuous of.
Nice compilation. Interesting (for a non American) to look at "breeder penalty" by country. The German figure feels intuitively right, somehow.
That said, a few nitpicky points:
1) part of the single person home ownership difference will be due to widows being more numerous than widowers. You can argue that this just confirms the female privilege in living longer, but I'll still be interested in seeing the same data for people under 60 or whenever males start dying out
2) the IPV and rape statistics are slightly at least disingenuous in one particular way. They lump together violent and non violent instances of both and while I'm furthest from implying that being belittled and humiliated isn't a form of violence in a broad sense (really, I acknowledge it can be), there's a difference between being called a useless piece of shit and having your ribs broken. A comparison of the number of males and females killed by their partners or exes would dispell this. Same with rape: violence/physical force or its threat vs "rape as unwanted sex while intoxicated" might (I'm not as sure here) show a different picture.
And I'm pretty sure you'll still end up with similar conclusions, just acknowledging some ways in which women ARE obviously disadvantaged in direct conflict with men.
I agree there could be some double counting of effects in (1), and I hadn't considered that, but that could be adjusted at the end of the analysis by adjusting the weights.
A lot of (2) gets encapsulated in the "intimate partner violence" numbers which got their own line.
A question that occurred to me while reading the portion on home ownership was what percentage of the single-woman home owners got the house in the divorce? I wonder if that would be worthy of separate discussion.
Another reader pointed out that a not insignificant portion of this trend is probably widows as the population ages.
I also wanted to nitpick a few other numbers:
For incarceration, it would be more fair to use the « same-crime length of prison » ratio Between men and women than total incarcerations ratio between men and women. If men commit more crime, it is not women’s fault.
A similar thing for workplace deaths: some feminists argued that a lot of those workplace deaths are due to men being stupid and not taking all the necessary precautionary measures when working. When women work those jobs, they die way less than. It is clearly gaslighting and we know men just take the more dangerous tasks when doing those jobs with women but it might be better to try to adjust for that.
Finally for College education: some feminists would argue that this is a sign of men privilege, in the sense that men can find work through trades/apprenticeship while for women this option is kind of blocked because sexism and things like that. But women don’t seem to chose the most competitive fields for job marketplace in university so idk about that. It looks to me like they chose more « fun » and high-status fields with low-pay.
White women are in fact the most privileged entities on the planet, and the ratio isn't even close.
Given the divorce rate, divorced women are overwhelmingly getting the kids and the house, with the man turfed out to fend for himself. Is that alone enough to account for the home ownership gap? I'm going to say "Probably."
We're already seeing societal fraying, with successful, professional women having expectations that are not only unrealistic, but unachievable for finding a male partner (tall, gorgeous, athletic, makes more money than she does). This is already showing in a crashing birth rate, but also men who rate a 7 or less out of 10 are simply opting not to play this stupid game anymore. This has several knock-on effects.
"I cannot explain why there are more homeless men than women. Mental illness causes homelessness, but mental illness in women is triple that of men, so that’s not it. "
The divorce metric above is certainly part of it. Also a woman who is mentally ill and unable to support herself can just enlist a man to do it for her, or fall back on family or the rest of her support network, with no social stigma attached. Nobody's going to take care of a man who can't work. (I shouldn't use absolutes but this is a definite rarity)
Society will not deal well with the day when men as a whole decide they're just going to check out.
Women are incapable of understanding Lysistrata was a comedy.
With regard to homelessness, I would point out that far more men suffer from military service-related PTSD than do women. The effects of PTSD do not always rise to the level we call mental illness, but they can cause mental dislocation that leads to leaving physical homes somewhere along the wayside.
I have not done a deep dive on why vets are disproportionately homeless, but I have seen that that specific problem has gotten better in the past few years.
As a prior navy guy, the military looked into the vets being homeless thing, found out a good bit were lying, but still didn’t like the numbers they saw. So(I have no idea when it started) they started training people on finance, savings, money spending, and when you get out they make you submit your plans(short, medium, long), ask where you’ll stay, how much you have saved, jobs, school(formal or trade), yadda yadda. Since they started, homeless vets is pretty small, and if you see a guy with a sign claiming he’s a vet, chances are he’s lying.
Now, I could be misremembering numbers or projections, but the military DOES train people, and if you’re homeless after serving, it’s really your own fault.
TIL
I suspect in the past, a lot of "homeless veterans" were never in the military. It just got more donations.
Sadly, I can see that happening as well. A different version of stolen honor.
Awesome and brilliant, as usual.
re: the 1970s feminists, it will presumably be difficult to find 1970s data, but a matching scorecard from that time would be interesting.
I was thinking exactly the same thing. Some numbers might be different, but especially the having a baby drop in income would be huge, probably looking like Germany’s numbers now, as women drop out of the workforce entirely when they have kids. It’s be interesting to see, although data gathering rules might be different
Women will never let up, that’s because we are hardwired to look for what’s wrong and not what’s right. People in general do that, but in my experience women do it more. Trade offs is a hard concept to understand for both men and women (economics in general seems impossible to understand for the general populace), but once again it seems like we women have an especially hard time with that concept. The grass is always greener for other people.
For example: We complain about the burden and oppressiveness of being the preferred parent of our children. How, even in a room full of adults, your child will crawl all over you and never let you have a break. But then again, we never stop to think how we’d feel if our child stopped preferring us or never preferred us at all. The few women this happened to (very rare, as it takes a LOT for a baby not to prefer their mother) are seething with jealousy and anger at their child’s preferred caretaker.
Another example: being SAHM is hard. Doing laundry all day and scrubbing floors are no fun. Even childcare is only sometimes fun. But we don’t stop to think how we’d feel if we were forced by circumstances to leave our babies for 8-10 hours a day in the care of others. One woman I have heard of blew up her relationship with her SAHD husband because her baby prefers him, and he hasn’t automatically read her mind and been a less fun caregiver when she’s home.
These are just domestic chore split examples. Looking at social issues, you generalize this tendency to other statistics (eg “Even one rape is a rape too many!”), you can easily see that this is a war so-called feminists can never win. They don’t pay attention to the male statistics of course, because there still too much rape. There will always be too much rape. Life is full of suffering, so there will always be rape. So the war is never over.
I think this is all part and parcel of the Victims' Revolution of the 60s and that nothing will change as long as our reigning morality (which has now been adopted by almost everyone educated and/or professional) is based on the perceived Victim class and how being a Good Person now means tending to their wounds and redistributing everything from assets to esteem to citiations from the Oppressor to the Oppressed (up to and including rewriting history, if nec). And these categories (like the founding dogma they're based on) are etched in stone and will not change and even if we're ruled by a new Thirty Tyrants composed only of black women they will proclaim that we are still centuries away from achieving "Justice".
I think people make the mistake of thinking of the 60s as just a groovy bacchanal of cool music and crazy clothes but it really was a second Reformation (we even had another Martin Luther! this one also being a King) and the Social Justice faith that arose on the ashes of Christianity and Americanism has now become the worldview/morality/sacred belief system of almost all Westerners under, say, age 40. And in this new faith women are an original and eternal victim class—the Patriarchy smothered them for centuries!—and once someone is coded as Victim they can never be contradicted, never told NO, as this replicates the sins of our evil ancestors.
There is a New God in town and He/She demands the total submission of men (white ones, most especially) and New Gods usually get what they want.
HWFO was in the vanguard of explaining that dynamic back in 2018. Here's a reprint from the original Medium piece on the topic, so the terminology has evolved since then.
https://hwfo.substack.com/p/social-justice-is-a-crowdsourced
oh yeah, i'd bookmarked that one.
is a classic, could be a book.
cheers!
Interesting writeup. I would have never expected this if not put in this way. Thanks HWFO. An interesting plot I would like to see in relation to this would be female vs. male narcissism. Further, would be a study on the drivers of this from a biological perspective. Maybe they are nothing, just thinking out loud. Anyway, thanks again.
I think there's science that addresses that topic specifically. Google around.
Thanks, will do.
Not throwing these items out as expecting others to do it. It was just putting thoughts into the drivers behind the discrepancies.
I’ve had to learn more about this than I ever wanted to know. Of the Cluster B personality disorders, men predominate in sociopathy and narcissistic personality disorder diagnoses. Women predominate in borderline and histrionic personality disorder diagnoses. This was as of a few years ago.
Ya know, I had another question…. How exactly does a woman rape a man? Not sure how that works. Once long before I was married with kids a woman I sorta knew took me home one night when I had too much to drink. I wasn’t at all attracted to her or interested in intimacy. Well she tried but things just wouldn’t work out for her so to speak. I know,I know. Your going to blame it on the alcohol. I’m pretty sure that if it would have been someone I was into everything woulda worked out just fine. I just can’t believe a woman could rape a man. Maybe I’m naïve though.🤣🤣
"Absurdly drunk" is part of the equation. I know one man to whom this has happened, but he's very apprehensive to share the story. If you're interested in plumbing the depths of the research, search for the term "pregnancy entrapment."
Have been there, tried to tell the story, got gaslit so hard by my "friends" that I actually apologized to her for harming her reputation, then had various negative reactions to that psychological hit. Comments like some of the ones in this thread are the reason the people making them have never heard of the idea.
In a work/business setting, a woman with more power demanding sex from a male in a less powerful position (no pun intended), and threatening retaliation if it was not forthcoming (also no pun intended).
This is an extreme case, but it really happened: https://www.rferl.org/a/the_curious_incident_of_the_sex_slave_in_the_hair_salon/24269330.html
yeah same here, i've been groped by some pretty beastly women and have even awoken to find one touching or sucking on my knob, but the moment i saw who it was and how much i was repelled by them, not even concrete could have got my savior to rise.
i am also very perplexed as to how a woman can rape a man.
Happily married and raising two sons. Happily feminist but eager to hear from men and seeing these kinds of thoughts/data. Hard to distinguish myself as a true feminist with the caveat that men are good, true and beautiful part of our world. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. This helps point towards a more nuanced stance of equality and equity. 💜
As you dive into feminist thought, you'll start to realize that feminism is not at all a universal block, there are dozens of different kinds, and the teachings and indoctrinations of many of the different kinds deeply conflict with other kinds of feminists. I would characterize my late wife as a feminist, but not like *those* feminists or *those other* feminists.
If you get into the TERF Wars, go slowly, dip one toe in the ocean, and watch out for sharks.
That was awesome analysis and one I shall hold onto ‼️
Still reading but I wanted to be the first to say great work!👏👏👏
Yeah it's long
This is a superior article. Thorough, lucid, and polished. I haven’t seen anything of such quality in this topic area since Dalrock took down his shingle a few years ago. I haven’t read anything else you’ve written yet, but I subscribed as soon as I finished this.
Thank you for the complement.
I don't hit gender stuff very often - this is mostly a firearms statistics publication with a side helping of wokeness analysis and a sprinkle of environmentalism and general culture war / media war analysis. YMMV. Have a look around.
Semper Fi, Old Breed! I think you'll find every one of the articles just as nuanced and data-driven. I've been a fan for years.
I would prob have to say I agree with that statement.Sadly.😞
Oh, and by the way. Excellent work. I liked it.
Women will never quit. They only read things that reinforce their beliefs, and regularly dismiss anything that goes against their agenda. More and more women are on the male-bashing agenda, and it is starting in younger and younger women. As men, we just need to shut up and deal with it. Expressing dismay or verbalizing that women are winning gains men no favors. Also, men need to be very, very careful about whom they date, and even more careful about whom they marry. Even then, there is a strong chance a woman will grow tired of you and resort to divorce-rape of their future ex husband.
I try to read both sides, but when one side spits on my opinions and the other doesn't, it's hard to be unbiased. And there are a LOT of strong opinions out there. It's traditional not to discuss religion or politics in polite company, but while the weather used to be a safe topic it no longer is.
There are many, many damn fools running around out there. Damn fools NEVER quit. So I try to avoid them. I have a few friends I treasure: we can argue without getting carried away. We even listen to one another. Sometimes we even change our minds.
And the perpetual litany of "girl power!" and "you can do it, girls!" starts extremely early.
As a father of a daughter, I don't mind the "girl power" and "you can do it" narratives. But I feel obligated to remind my daughter that certain realities are in place, such as "don't pick a fist fight with a boy."
I don't love it because it comes with an implied "the world is holding you down relative to boys, but you still got this !" message, which is clearly the opposite of this piece you wrote. The very absence of "boy power" messages alone delivers this message too.