First point. Affirmative action is racist. Until people are judged on meritocracy alone, instead of color we can consider ourselves a racist nation. I don’t see it ever happening. Too many in our country love the crutch. Instead of viewing failure as fuel to do better and figure out a better way. They have their race excuse. “ I didn’t get in cause I’m not white”
Second point. To hell with Harvard, your kids will just graduate brainwashed full of the woke agenda. Send your kids into the trades. I know this,if you know how to weld and weld well your kids will never struggle to put food on the table. And race has nothing to do with it. Either you can do the work or you can’t. If you can’t,no matter your race. Next person please.
While the crunching of the numbers about implications is of interest, your read of the decision is not accurate. First, it very clearly establishes that Bakke no longer applies. Moreover, Grutter no longer applies, because time is up (see Kavanaugh’s concurrence). So, as Roberts CJ explicitly says, it is back to post-Brown jurisprudence. Affirmative action is effectively over, back to a colourblind Constitution unless you can pass strict scrutiny, which is very, very hard. Systematically advantaging any race is illegal, and it does not matter what mechanism you use to do it. (So, you can write about your experience of race in your essay as much as you want, that can’t be used to systematically advantage some group.)
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Regarding Asian academic success, it seems to be both innate intelligence and culture. Intelligence is strongly correlated with results for tests such as the SAT and GRE, but work ethic or culture plays a larger role in grades.
You're absolutely correct, but Harvard getting pimp-slapped is worth celebrating anyway. Yes, I can be something of a dick at times. Unlike people at Harvard, who are dicks their entire lives.
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Harvard should be compelled to make it's entire candidate selection model explicit. The academic index is not very predictive of acceptance - what are the unobserved variables that complete the model, and why can't they be observed and made public?
Very informative. This is kind of what I was afraid of. The ruling actually AFFIRMS the Constitutionality of the protection of certain races from 'racism'. And in general AFFIRMS the special privileges granted to 'protected classes.'
In the three cases together, AA, 303 and Student Loans, the more lasting and greater effect could come from the dissents they produced. It is clearer than ever before that will to power and illiberality are the core of the 'liberal' triumverate's philosophy.
Is there any doubt that Kagan would be horrified if a Republican president used the Heroes Act to SPEED up the college debtor's repayment plan? To make them pay HIGHER interest rates in an effort to reduce a 'National Inflation Emergency' and reduce the suffering of blue collar plumbers? The other six votes would be identical.
Can anyone else on the planet except Sotomayor find support for Harvard's affirmative action in Justice Harlan's Plessy dissent? A strange choice to quote him given her belief that a little bit of racism of the right kind, organized by the right people, is really best for society. Trust her, she is wise, she knows these things.
In 303 the court's majority is merely catching up to the years of jokes and memes, steeped in the obvious hypocrisy that trans-lesbian jewish bakers would never be forced by the dissenters to make cupcakes celebrating the Intifada.
In each case they say the quiet part outloud. Yes, not only is an elephant in the mousehole but we love, feed and cherish that elephant. We aren't here as objective referees, we absolutely believe in redirecting the constitutional framework to support our superior policy plans. We don't care what we break to get there.
Glad you mentioned tax exempt. As almost nobody left or right points out that the court is only up in the University's discrimination business because of federal funding they receive. Harvard could just stop taking funds tomorrow and be as free with admissions as they cared to be.
"Beyond the Ferguson, Mo., media reports on the "racial divide," the facts require some correction: Despite notions to the contrary, there is only one human race. Our single race is independent of geographic origin, ethnicity, culture, color of skin or shape of eyes — we all share a single phenotype, the same or similar observable anatomical features and behavior.
Science highlights these similarities in our embryonic development, physiology (our organ-based systems), biochemistry (our metabolites and reactions), and more recently, genomics (our genetic makeup). As a molecular biologist, this last one is indeed the most important to me — data show that the DNA of any two human beings is 99.9 percent identical, and we all share the same set of genes, scientifically validating the existence of a single biological human race and one origin for all human beings. In short, we are all brothers and sisters. [What is the Difference between Race and Ethnicity? ]" — Michael Hadjiargyrou (29 Aug 2014) Race is a Social Concept, Not a Scientific One (Op-Ed), Live Science, https://tinyurl.com/25exkhrn
My bad, I always thought it ment judged on skill and ability. So take out meritocracy and put those words in. What I’m getting at is the best people should either be allowed or get a job opening or a school position. Not picked because of their minority status. I mean would you want the best Dr for brain surgery? Or the Dr who isn’t near as good but he’s a minority of some kind?
I see your point. However, is that scene really an advancement? I really wonder. I truly believe that after a certain point more wealth turns on you and your not happy anymore. I know it’s definitely not every case out there however it is many times the case. I am blue collar (construction) also. I hope my boys end up with a similar life. It’s a good life. At least I think so.
Affirmative Action is Exactly the Same as it Was
First point. Affirmative action is racist. Until people are judged on meritocracy alone, instead of color we can consider ourselves a racist nation. I don’t see it ever happening. Too many in our country love the crutch. Instead of viewing failure as fuel to do better and figure out a better way. They have their race excuse. “ I didn’t get in cause I’m not white”
Second point. To hell with Harvard, your kids will just graduate brainwashed full of the woke agenda. Send your kids into the trades. I know this,if you know how to weld and weld well your kids will never struggle to put food on the table. And race has nothing to do with it. Either you can do the work or you can’t. If you can’t,no matter your race. Next person please.
While the crunching of the numbers about implications is of interest, your read of the decision is not accurate. First, it very clearly establishes that Bakke no longer applies. Moreover, Grutter no longer applies, because time is up (see Kavanaugh’s concurrence). So, as Roberts CJ explicitly says, it is back to post-Brown jurisprudence. Affirmative action is effectively over, back to a colourblind Constitution unless you can pass strict scrutiny, which is very, very hard. Systematically advantaging any race is illegal, and it does not matter what mechanism you use to do it. (So, you can write about your experience of race in your essay as much as you want, that can’t be used to systematically advantage some group.)
Regarding Asian academic success, it seems to be both innate intelligence and culture. Intelligence is strongly correlated with results for tests such as the SAT and GRE, but work ethic or culture plays a larger role in grades.
You're absolutely correct, but Harvard getting pimp-slapped is worth celebrating anyway. Yes, I can be something of a dick at times. Unlike people at Harvard, who are dicks their entire lives.
Harvard should be compelled to make it's entire candidate selection model explicit. The academic index is not very predictive of acceptance - what are the unobserved variables that complete the model, and why can't they be observed and made public?
Very informative. This is kind of what I was afraid of. The ruling actually AFFIRMS the Constitutionality of the protection of certain races from 'racism'. And in general AFFIRMS the special privileges granted to 'protected classes.'
So it is just more AFFIRMATIVE action. Not less.
'AA is unchanged'
Politifact pronounces, 'maybe true?'
In the three cases together, AA, 303 and Student Loans, the more lasting and greater effect could come from the dissents they produced. It is clearer than ever before that will to power and illiberality are the core of the 'liberal' triumverate's philosophy.
Is there any doubt that Kagan would be horrified if a Republican president used the Heroes Act to SPEED up the college debtor's repayment plan? To make them pay HIGHER interest rates in an effort to reduce a 'National Inflation Emergency' and reduce the suffering of blue collar plumbers? The other six votes would be identical.
Can anyone else on the planet except Sotomayor find support for Harvard's affirmative action in Justice Harlan's Plessy dissent? A strange choice to quote him given her belief that a little bit of racism of the right kind, organized by the right people, is really best for society. Trust her, she is wise, she knows these things.
In 303 the court's majority is merely catching up to the years of jokes and memes, steeped in the obvious hypocrisy that trans-lesbian jewish bakers would never be forced by the dissenters to make cupcakes celebrating the Intifada.
In each case they say the quiet part outloud. Yes, not only is an elephant in the mousehole but we love, feed and cherish that elephant. We aren't here as objective referees, we absolutely believe in redirecting the constitutional framework to support our superior policy plans. We don't care what we break to get there.
Glad you mentioned tax exempt. As almost nobody left or right points out that the court is only up in the University's discrimination business because of federal funding they receive. Harvard could just stop taking funds tomorrow and be as free with admissions as they cared to be.
"Beyond the Ferguson, Mo., media reports on the "racial divide," the facts require some correction: Despite notions to the contrary, there is only one human race. Our single race is independent of geographic origin, ethnicity, culture, color of skin or shape of eyes — we all share a single phenotype, the same or similar observable anatomical features and behavior.
Science highlights these similarities in our embryonic development, physiology (our organ-based systems), biochemistry (our metabolites and reactions), and more recently, genomics (our genetic makeup). As a molecular biologist, this last one is indeed the most important to me — data show that the DNA of any two human beings is 99.9 percent identical, and we all share the same set of genes, scientifically validating the existence of a single biological human race and one origin for all human beings. In short, we are all brothers and sisters. [What is the Difference between Race and Ethnicity? ]" — Michael Hadjiargyrou (29 Aug 2014) Race is a Social Concept, Not a Scientific One (Op-Ed), Live Science, https://tinyurl.com/25exkhrn
My bad, I always thought it ment judged on skill and ability. So take out meritocracy and put those words in. What I’m getting at is the best people should either be allowed or get a job opening or a school position. Not picked because of their minority status. I mean would you want the best Dr for brain surgery? Or the Dr who isn’t near as good but he’s a minority of some kind?
I see your point. However, is that scene really an advancement? I really wonder. I truly believe that after a certain point more wealth turns on you and your not happy anymore. I know it’s definitely not every case out there however it is many times the case. I am blue collar (construction) also. I hope my boys end up with a similar life. It’s a good life. At least I think so.